tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post8571473710720526917..comments2023-12-20T08:31:42.572-06:00Comments on How I complicated my life today: Mid-training injury and illness; a long and fast workoutGraciehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05641028266038110278noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-10770524629664176582019-03-14T15:29:35.131-05:002019-03-14T15:29:35.131-05:00Sorry to hear that you are dealing with this hamst...Sorry to hear that you are dealing with this hamstring problem and also the mass. You are running very well right now and I do think that Sub-3:00 is in the cards for you. Speaking of cards, Boston is always a wild card, so it could be there or maybe in the fall. Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265175590096078175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-77380639147109683232019-03-12T22:21:07.524-05:002019-03-12T22:21:07.524-05:00I've done 2x4 miles at MP at 6:45 and it felt ...I've done 2x4 miles at MP at 6:45 and it felt very smooth and doable and that was about a month ago. BUT. I think your point about straining is a good one. I wasn't straining during the last workout, but I was also very aware that the workout ended at 15 miles, if that makes sense. I sort of started the countdown. If I had 11 more to go, would I be able to hold off on that end-of-workout feeling? Also, I am considering that this is a giant jump for me. My recent almost-marathon was 7:03 pace, so I'd be cutting off a big chunk of time. That's just hard to do in real life. For now I am planning to use 6:46 as my marathon pace WORKOUT goal, as long as it is feeling good, but will actually run the race at a slower pace. I can always pick up the last few miles if I feel good, but I don't want to risk a blow up from taking it out too fast! Thanks for all your advice, it is really helpful, please keep it coming! Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05641028266038110278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-28967245636015164412019-03-12T15:59:54.910-05:002019-03-12T15:59:54.910-05:00(err....meant to note that the marathon effort mil...(err....meant to note that the marathon effort miles for that workout averaged to 6:45 both times I did it. That's a key detail. I did that workout twice.)AKA Darkwave, AKA Anarcha, AKA Cris.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09873516028463495708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-83584380985628986492019-03-12T15:58:21.285-05:002019-03-12T15:58:21.285-05:00FWIW, before CIM, I did 2x5 miles at what felt lik...FWIW, before CIM, I did 2x5 miles at what felt like a pace I could sustain for the marathon distance (didn't look at my watch) with 1 mile in between at 7:45-8:00. Those 5 mile segments felt very controlled - I couldn't call them easy, but I felt like I could have gone 10 straight or done 2x6 without duress. Then I ran 6:47 pace at CIM. I think that if you felt like you were really fighting starting at 8 or 9 miles, then the pace is too aggressive. If you still felt controlled and comfortable at that point, then perhaps that's a viable pace if the weather gods smile on you. (just my unsolicited less-than-2 cents)<br /><br />I <br />AKA Darkwave, AKA Anarcha, AKA Cris.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09873516028463495708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-73974571256519940902019-03-12T13:09:22.413-05:002019-03-12T13:09:22.413-05:00I do have some concern that I raced that workout! ...I do have some concern that I raced that workout! Just because it was SO much faster than intended. And the whole Boston/athlete's village aspect does worry me. Otherwise, I would think that was a good indicator workout. As it is, I am a little more hesitant to believe it as true marathon pace. Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05641028266038110278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-22741145715655501302019-03-12T12:48:10.388-05:002019-03-12T12:48:10.388-05:00So....1) yes, I think 15 at 6:44 (if not an all ou...So....1) yes, I think 15 at 6:44 (if not an all out effort) is indicative of sub-3, though my concern would always be that one had left part of one's race in that workout.<br />2) as you noted and know, Boston is different. And I think the athlete's village experience also costs time. When I was targeting Boston last year, I just assumed that I'd run about 5 minutes slower than I would on any other course.<br /><br />I hope you get good answers on the mass soon!AKA Darkwave, AKA Anarcha, AKA Cris.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09873516028463495708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1457833116563861494.post-29260355573492053892019-03-11T11:48:41.915-05:002019-03-11T11:48:41.915-05:00I'm glad you pushed for the US. I hope you can...I'm glad you pushed for the US. I hope you can get the mass identified quickly so you know what to do going forward. All the prayers and good thought that it's benign and easy to deal with. Lisa from Lisa's Yarnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05335500882510597919noreply@blogger.com